VoCore2: FAQ2

Why is it on indiegogo, is it already a production or just a prototype?

I really do not know indiegogo just have 10% success rate :) Many people do not trust it. ( I have contributed to 2 projects and all failed too. T-T ) We put this on indiegogo just want more people know it, we think it is a good way to spread the news.

VoCore is different than others, it finish its beta, first batch then start crowdfunding. We have send the first batch(sample) to our distributors and some media.  And now it is already in mass production, all features works well.

All videos and photos are from real VoCore2 sample, we do not have anybody good at or have time on PhotoShop or other “magic” tools :)



How about current production process?

I have to say the yield rate is not high enough. We meet many troubles, but I think we are able to send out every package on time. :) Do not worry, just wait for our good news.

The Ultimate version shell are not ready yet, left a lot of work to do. Hope the factory could make this done in time. If any parts delayed, we will have to wait. :(

Note: a very early/ugly shell from factory. :)


VoCore2: FAQ

1. In the feature list there is a PCIe 1.1, is that real? How to connect to it?

Ye, there is. For VoCore2 standard version there is a hidden interface PCIe1.1. MTK design it for connect to WiFi 5G chips. But for us, we can use it for many interesting projects.

It has eight pins, CLK+, CLK-, RX+, RX-, TX+, TX-, RST, GND.

PS: This is a professional high-speed interface , can not export like other interface, I did not have plan for it yet, so I hide it. OpenWrt do not have driver support it yet, but MTK SDK has its driver source code.

It is at right-top corner of VoCore2.



2. Is it able to power by Li-Battery?

This is a hard question. Our power(5.0VI) support from 3.6V to 6.0V input. Battery output is about 3.7V~4.2V, so the answer is yes. Suggest to use a power bank for stable current.

VoCore2: Now We have 4USD Linux Computer

From indiegogo campaign begin, I received a lot of emails, some people said they are very excited and can not wait for it, some people send us special thanks for making it. But also I find some people emailed me, they want it so bad but just can not afford it yet.

My target for VoCore is to dig electric physics limit and my skill limit, make it to the best and do it to the extreme, it is a test for myself so I do not care much about its cost, but their request light my brain again, is it possible to make a wonderful thing but it also can be afford by the budget limited people such as students?

RaspberryPi zero is very good, only 5USD, its price is low and everybody can afford it. I waited the exciting thing over six months, try to get one but never success, it is too hard to buy :( sometimes I just think it is not that real :p

VoCore2 is almost ready, production process is smooth for now, I am thinking if it is possible to use exists technology and production process make something even cheaper. After a lot of test,  it comes, VoCore2 Lite!


PS: We have limited production capacity, but I promise one people have one piece at least.

Compare VoCore, VoCore2 and VoCore2 Lite:

VoCore VoCore2 Lite VoCore2
Price 19.99USD 3.99USD 11.99USD
CPU RT5350, 360MHz MT7688AN, 580MHz MT7628AN, 580MHz
Memory 32MB SDRAM 64MB DDR2 128MB DDR2
Storage 16MB NOR 8MB NOR 16MB NOR
Antenna Slot x1 x1 x2
On-Board ANTENNA ×
Wireless Speed ~75Mbps ~150Mbps ~300Mbps
Ethernet Port x5 x1 / x5* x1 / x5*
Ethernet Speed 100Mbps 100Mbps 100Mbps
SPI Master
SPI Slave
USB 2.0 Host
USB 2.0 OTG × ×
PCIe 1.1 × ×
SD Support SPI
GPIO > 30** >=40** >= 40**
UART x2 x3 x3
PWM x2 x2
Power Consumption 138mA 74mA 74mA)

People may ask, is that price lower than the cost? The answer is it is not, but it is very very very close to the cost, and only for us with the experience of production VoCore2(we reuse  the VoCore2 tech, test jig, test app, to save cost etc…). Just hope students and other cost sensitive people will have a chance to play with the most advanced IoT board. Feel happy just like the first time I made VoCore.

Final, please help us spread the news! Good luck!

VoCore2: Online!

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VoCore2 is now on indiegogo.com again :) https://igg.me/at/vocore2

Compared with VoCore v1, we added a beautiful shell(the picture is only a 3d print sample, final shell is much much better) and more features, also improved the LuCI interface to make it easier to use. Hope everyone will like it, same as usual, fully open sourced. :)

Why are we using the White PCB?

Many curious people have asked me such question (PS: we did not kill any cat yet). This is always a little secret of VoCore, but today I will talk. It is not only about its looks better, also it is part of quality control.

PCB mainly has six colors, green, blue, red, yellow, white, black. (the truth is you can choose any RGB 24bits color you like, somebody even choose purple)

Most of the factories love black and green, that is because the first pass yield around 95% ~ 98%, the not good ones will send back to workers and repair, during the repairing, the pcb boards have to be heated to 260C again, green and black pcb is good but white pcb will change to light yellow one.

Most repaired ones are good, but the quality might come low. Sn after heat and heat again will partly become SnO2, SnO2 is not conductor and have a high chance broken the connection.

So we decide we only ship the first pass VoCore to users, and use white PCB to make it easy to check every VoCore we shipped is first class quality.

PS: another fact is I am lazy, keep them 100% good rate so I can have more time on bed but not shipping the packages again and again. :p

VoCore2: Current Progress

Last month, I spend a lot of time on DMA and ALSA driver, fight with the noise, optimized every feature(I also made a fork on github.com/vonger, welcome everyone).

Really sorry for the delay, but my only target is to make it to the best I could, not the cost or the deadline.

PS: I heard many companies even big company, they just make their products usable but not extreme, because there are deadline, market, pressure from investor, lack of professional engineer etc…They are telling me, the end user do not know the much tech, so who care…

But I want VoCore2 not only to be the tiny computer but also the best router, the best embed wireless platform, if I can not make it to what I want, why waste the time? There are thousands of such boards already.

Now I am still looking for possible flaw on VoCore2, once I am happy about the sample, it will go to production process. It should be very soon :)

Ethernet Transfer Speed: >= 95Mbps(iperf3), maximized.
Wireless 802.11n Transfer Speed: >= 100Mbps(iperf3), maximized too. —- Most routers same test condition only reach around 90Mbps.
USB Transfer Speed: maximized.
SDXC(SD card) Transfer Speed: maximized.
The Power Consume: 75mA.



VoCore2: Process

Almost there :) Just finish DMA driver and I2S
driver, committed two patch to my github.

(clone and checkout VoCore2, update feeds, then it will be ready to compile.)

PS: I planed to reuse exists dma/i2s code for mt7620/mt7621, but none of them are real compatible with mt7628… :(

It is really hard work for Linux kernel develop. Code is a simple part, but understanding Linux arch is really a time-cost work(also every linux kernel has some slightly difference). I learned a lot from reading the source of linux, and really love the flash wisdom between the line of the code.

I am going to do:
audio codec driver: this driver for the dock part, codec wm8988 or es8388.

spi dma driver: current spi driver just works but without dma the transfer is slow and takes full cpu time. There is some example in linux kernel source such as spi-ep93xx.c. Write this driver will be skillful, need to understand DMA arch and SPI arch.

clock driver: standard linux kernel should have clock driver for every device on the bus, current openwrt driver just like a “hack”, using fixed clock frequency in the source. If we want our code in real linux kernel(is that LEDE going to do?) must follow their rules.

VoCore2 Beta: Wifi Driver

Hello every beta tester, current openwrt(or lede) default wifi driver is not very well.
My test result of iperf is around 12Mbps.

Thanks to nobblepepper test result:

1. With the image(mtk driver) that came on VoCore2 I get:
$ iperf -c -t 30 -f m
[ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth
[  3]  0.0-30.0 sec   191 MBytes  53.4 Mbits/sec
$ iperf -c -t 30 -f m
[  3] local port 39644 connected with port
[ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth
[  3]  0.0-30.0 sec   212 MBytes  59.3 Mbits/sec

2. With lede with mt76 driver I get:
$ iperf -c -t 30 -f m
[  3] local port 39712 connected with port
[ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth
[  3]  0.0-30.0 sec  44.5 MBytes  12.4 Mbits/sec
$ iperf -c -t 30 -f m
[  3] local port 39713 connected with port
[ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth
[  3]  0.0-30.0 sec  38.4 MBytes  10.7 Mbits/sec

3. When I disable cal_free data like this (which gave me BIG
improvements in speed on MiWiFi and Linkit7688)

I get:
$ iperf -c -t 30 -f m
[  3] local port 39775 connected with port
[ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth
[  3]  0.0-30.7 sec  7.75 MBytes  2.12 Mbits/sec
$ iperf -c -t 30 -f m
[  3] local port 39776 connected with port
[ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth
[  3]  0.0-30.5 sec  7.00 MBytes  1.92 Mbits/sec

Here is a firmware from mtk openwrt, wifi works very well.
default password is 12345678

This firmware is only for one antenna. I disabled another one.
It is easy to enable by update factory setting section. update 0x0034 of factory setting to 0x3422(old should be 0x3411)